As a recent graduate, it is easy to put unrealistic expectations on yourself. Expectations that suite the life of a collegiate but not so much that of a post-grad. Unmet self-imposed expectations can be difficult to deal with.
Kevin DeYoung has a very helpful post on dealing with guilt. His thoughts can serve you well as you transition and it is worth the few minutes it will take to read
Here are the notes from Poteat’s talk on the local church at the April Senior Connection.
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Intro:
-Why do we even have a talk on the church?
*Being a part of a healthy community is really hard after college
-lonely, isolated, struggling, etc…
*Around 9.1% of the population of MSP is involved with an evangelical church
*That leaves 90.9% who aren’t involved with an evangelical church
WHY?
A Good number of people don’t like the church:
- People don’t believe the gospel
- “Organized religion” problems
- It is extremely easy to be critical about the church
- It is easy to just vilify an entity. To not like the “church” can dehumanize it.
- Just Jesus and Me:
- “If decapitation, from the Latin word caput, means to cut off the head, then it stands to reason that decorpulation, from the Latin word corpus, should refer to cutting off the body.” – p. 13. Thus, to want Jesus without the church is to want a head without the body. A decorpulated Christianity.
Church is used 129 times in the Bible
Matt. 16:18—…I will build my church, and the gates of hell [3] shall not prevail against it.
*It is the church that wages war against Satan and Sin
Matt. 18:17—If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.
*It is the church that disciplines unbelief and makes judgments within the body
I Cor. 12:28—And God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, helping, administrating, and various kinds of tongues.
*In the church we see the most clear manifestation of Spiritual Gifts
Ephesians 3:10—so that through the church the manifold wisdom of God might now be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly places.
*The church Displays the majesty of God in the context of spiritual warfare
Ephesians 5—Christ and the church
The Church
- What to look for in a church
- Gospel not stories
- Bible not just teaching
- Mission—how intentional is the church with the gospel
- “We’re glad we can give money to send people so we don’t have to go”
- Authentic Community—if the others are present this will follow
- Don’t be afraid of people seeing you for who you are
- This takes major risk – so you desperately need to hold fast to the gospel.
- How to go about finding a church
- Don’t major on minors
- Worship
- Formality
- Size
- People you know/location
- Beware of entitlement
- You come from John Piper’s church
- No church is perfect but don’t settle (probably not CO or BBC)
- Be Teachable, please. Don’t be a theological snob
Go Online, ask people you know if they have heard of churches in an area, visit the church three consecutive times. Perhaps do this with a few churches. Talk to a leader at the church and ask them about the churches values. Have lunch with someone from the church…
You and the Church
- Be proactive and intentional.
- This is not CO. How many of you had someone initiate towards you in college?
- Become a member
- ASK class: North: April 16–17, South: April 23–24, Downtown: May 10–11
- It is putting yourself under spiritual authority which is a very biblical idea
- Discipline & Accountability
- Directory for others to connect with
- Give to the church
- Don’t be a nomad
- Lead and Influence
- 1 Timothy 4:12 – Let no one despise you for your youth, but set the believers an example in speech, in conduct, in love, in faith, in purity.
- i. Help it become what you see it is missing. (if not as much community, if not ministering in neighborhoods, etc. Don’t sit in the stands, criticizing the game – get in the game)
- Evangelism and Discipleship are missing from the church
- The days of John Piper are coming to a close
- Be teachable
- 1 Timothy 4:12 – Let no one despise you for your youth, but set the believers an example in speech, in conduct, in love, in faith, in purity.
Ministries of the Church
- CO and the church
- We are a ministry of the church. (Nursery, Sunday School, Youth Group, Choir)
- Small groups
- Get connected and be intentional and teachable
- Get connected to what mobilization is doing NOW!
- Bible studies
- Titus 2
- Meet older people there and seek mentorship
Whatever you do at work, in your neighborhood is in a sense a ministry of the church because you are the church
*We can be a part of changing this city
The following is a mad lib from Kevin DeYoung’s intro to the book Why We Love the Church.
The institutional church is so (pejorative adjective). When I go to church I feel completely (negative emotion). The leadership is totally (adjective you would use to describe Richard Nixon) and the people are (noun that starts with un-). The services are (adjective you might use to describe going to the dentist), the music is (adjective you would use to describe the singing on Barney), and the whole congregation is (choose among: “passive,” “comatose,” “hypocritical,” or “Rush Limbaugh Republicans”). The whole thing makes me (medical term).
I had no choice but to leave the church. My relationship with (spiritual noun) is better than ever. Now I meet regularly with my (relational noun, pl.) and talk about (noun that could be the focus of a liberal arts degree) and Jesus. We really care for each other. Sometimes we even (choose among: “pray for each other,” “feed the homeless together,” or “share power tools”). This is church like it was meant to be. After all, (insert: “where two or three are gathered, there I am in the midst of you,” or “the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life,” or “we don’t have to go to church, we are the church”). I’m not saying everyone needs to do what I’ve done, but if you are tired of (compound phrase that begins with “institutional” or ends with “as-we-know-it”), I invite you to join the (noun with political overtones) and experience (spiritual noun) like you never will by sitting in a (choose among the following architectural put-downs: “wodden pew,” “steepled graveyard,” “stained-glass mausoleum,” or “glorified concert hall”) week after week. When will the (biblical noun) start being the (same biblical noun)?
If so, that is like wanting a head without the body.
In the intro to the book Why We Love the Church, Kevin DeYoung makes reference to what he calls a “decorpulated Christianity”. To summarize…
1. Christ is the head of the church (Eph. 1:22-23, 5:23)
2. “If decapitation, from the Latin word caput, means to cut off the head, then it stands to reason that decorpulation, from the Latin word corpus, should refer to cutting off the body.” – p. 13
3. Thus, to want Jesus without the church is to want a head without the body. A decorpulated Christianity.
This hardly seems helpful though many voices, some self-proclaimed evangelicals and others in the culture at large, champion a churchless Christianity.
Our generation faces obstacles in committing to a local church. In his book, Stop Dating the Church, Joshua Harris outlines three reasons why he believes the biggest obstacles aren’t problems in the church, but problems in us.
1. We’ve adopted self-centered attitudes. We’ve believed the lie that we’ll be happier the less we sacrifice or give of ourselves and our time. But the more we clutch our time, money, and comfort and selfishly refuse to give to our church, the less we receive back.
2. We’ve let proud independence keep us uninvolved. This can be the pride that says, “I don’t need other people in my life.” Or it may be pride that says, “I don’t want other people to see me for how I really am.” Both forms cut us off from the blessings and benefits of community in the local church.
3. We’ve adopted a critical eye toward the church. We’ve believed that by complaining or logging our church’s faults, we are accomplishing something. But God calls us to repent of our critical spirit and pick up one of concern instead. Genuine concern is what happens when we see a problem and we care. That kind of concern leads to positive changes for us and our church.
- taken from p. 58-59
The following is from Kevin DeYoung’s blog “DeYoung, Restless, Reformed” posted April 9th, 2010.
As for the hurting and disappointed, before you criticize your leaders ask yourselves these questions:
1. Did I ever ask for help? Pastors and elders are not omniscient. Even with the best shepherding strategies people will fall through the cracks. So if you really need help, don’t be afraid to ask for it. I know everyone wants to be noticed. But it’s hard for a dozen guys to notice five hundred or two dozen to notice two thousand. Help your leaders help you.
2. Have I overlooked opportunities to fit in and get to know people? Before you complain that you’ve been at the church six months and still don’t know anyone, think about ways you could get known in the next six months. Is there a small group you could join? Could you attend the smaller, more informal evening service? What about volunteering for the nursery next time the sign up sheet goes around? Have you tried the potlucks and picnics and prayer meetings? Giving love and being loved is 90% just showing up.
3. Is it realistic for the leaders to give to every person in this church the kind of care I expect? It’s easy to think “All I wanted was one visit. You can’t tell me they were too busy to set aside one night for my family.” But remember you aren’t the only person at the church. If the general level of care you expect from your leaders cannot be multiplied by the number of people in the church, then you may be hoping for too much. If you expect everything, you’ll always be disappointed.
4. If I really wanted to be loved and noticed why did I stop showing up? On the one hand, church leaders should know when their members have drifted away. Good shepherds keep an eye on their sheep. But on the other hand, if sheep want to be cared for by the flock, they shouldn’t stay from it. People get hurt when their church absence isn’t noticed. But I have a hard time feeling too much sympathy, unless you’re dealing with a shut-in or someone whose absence is not voluntary. Don’t run away if you want to be found.
5. Am I willing to consider that I may be at fault more than I realize? If it feels like your leaders can never do anything right, maybe you’re the one making life miserable–for them and for you.
6. Is it possible I’ve overlooked ways the body has cared for me because I was hoping a different part of the body would care for me? Sometimes church members will say, “Sure, my small group sent me cards but the pastor never called.” Or, “Yes the pastors were very friendly to greet me after church, but no one my age ever said hello.” Or, “I know the elders care for me, but that’s their job.” Or conversely, “True, my friends prayed for me, but I never heard from my elder.” Before you get angry, remember the goal is for the body to care for the body, not for the shoulder to always get a special backrub from its favorite hand.
7. In general have I found this church and these leaders to be unloving and unsupportive? If the answer is yes, and Question 5 is dealt with too, then you may need a different church. But if the answer is no, consider giving your church and your leaders the benefit of the doubt. Maybe they just botched this one. We all get it wrong sometimes. I know I have. Maybe they were too busy and dropped the ball. Or maybe you don’t know the whole story. In any event, don’t let one misstep color your whole impression of their ministry.
For both sheep and shepherds the indispensable requirements for living together are love and humility. Love to treat others as we want to be treated. Humility to consider how we may be at fault. Disappointment in the church is bound to happen. But it doesn’t have to destroy the unity of the body. The Lord can use our hurts to make all of us slower to speak and quicker to listen.
The following is from Kevin DeYoung’s blog “DeYoung, Restless, Reformed” posted April 9th, 2010.
Pastors and elders, the next time you are criticized for being unloving or unconcerned, ask yourselves:
1. Do we have some mechanism for personally knowing our sheep? As leaders, we will give an account for how well we watched over our people’s souls (Heb. 13:7). The Bible doesn’t mandate only one way for doing member care, but we must work to have some process in place. If we never ask, “How is the congregation doing?” or better yet, “How are you doing?” we should not be surprised to find lots of people falling through the cracks.
2. Do we have some way of knowing when people are not showing up at church? You can eyeball it, check the friendship pads, or spy out the church mailboxes, but we need to have a general sense of who is not making faithful use of the means of grace. Our Book of Church Order stipulates we talk about it at every elders’ meeting. The first step to noticing who’s missing is to start looking and start talking about it.
3. Are we confronting cliquishness in our church? The line between community and clique is often blurry. But if there’s one central difference it’s openness. A healthy community welcomes new people in. A clique finds ways to keep new people out. Pastors need to confront the problem of “closed circles” head on–in preaching, in structural decisions, and in one on one conversations. The leaders also need to make sure they are not in a closed circle themselves. Good friends are good. Good friends to the exclusion of everyone else is very bad.
4. Are there easy, identifiable ways for the shy, the non go-getters, and the more culturally reserved to get involved and be known by others? The confident entrepreneurs will make their way in the church just fine. But well-advertised entry points and personal invitations are required for many others.
5. Is it at least possible that we are more at fault than we think? Leadership doesn’t mean saying you’re sorry every time Mr. Sensitive feels offended. But it does mean always being open to the possibility that you’ve screwed up more than you thought.
6. Have we made promises we didn’t deliver on? There’s nothing more deadly than well-publicized, poorly executed good intentions. The elders launch a family visitation program, but only make it to half the homes. A pastor agrees to follow up his lobby conversation with a phone call and then forgets all about it. The church promises every member will get a mentor, but it ends up there aren’t enough mentors to go around. Don’t set the bar so high you’re bound to crash into it.
7. Are these critics generally critical? Pastors can waste their time with divisive grumblers. When they do so they are often too worn out to listen when a loyal member offers a thoughtful critique. We shouldn’t spend a lot of time on the squeaky wheels unless it’s an unfamiliar squeak. In other words, consider the source and remember “faithful are the wounds of a friend.”
The following is from Kevin DeYoung’s blog “DeYoung, Restless, Reformed” posted April 7th, 2010.
“No one supported me.”
“I didn’t matter to anyone.”
“You didn’t even care.”
Those are among the hardest things a pastor can hear from his congregation, whether it’s about him directly or not. These lines are also some of the most biting things a church member can say and, no doubt, one of the most painful things a church member can feel. And yet the feelings are felt, and even the thoughts expressed, quite frequently in the life of the church.
The situations which lead people to feel unloved are easy to imagine.
• A pastor fails to visit a family after their daughter is tragically killed in a car accident.
• A new couple visits the church for 6 months. They never get invited to the pastors’ home. So they start looking at other churches.
• A new graduate student feels invisible because he’s single and shy. No one makes an effort to get to know him. After a few months slipping in the service, he gives up on your church, and maybe on church altogether.
• A young man gets a call from the elders because he’s gotten a girl pregnant. He’s never met the elders before and now feels like he’s facing the inquisition. He doesn’t deny he’s sinned, but the pastoral care he’s now receiving seems unloving.
• One of your pillar families grows spotty in their attendance on Sunday morning. Eventually they drop out altogether. By the time you notice, they’ve been gone six months. Once you call, it’s too little too late.
• A new mother notices she isn’t invited to the mom’s Bible study. She’s not sure why, but she assumes it has something to do with her background. After a year of feeling isolated her family leaves the church because it is too cliquish.
The scenarios are endless and they are all painful, for the sheep and for the shepherds. So how should church members respond when they feel unloved, unsupported, or like outsiders in their church? And how should church leaders respond when they are criticized for being unconcerned or the church is faulted for being unloving?
The easy response is to assume that the other side is always wrong. I’ve talked with Christians before (not necessarily from my congregation) who harbor a long list of grievances with their church. They never stop to consider that they might be something other than helpless victims. They might be part of the problem. On the flip side, I’ve been at pastors’ gatherings where the assumption behind all the conversations, jokes, and complaining is that they’re ministering faithfully and the church just doesn’t get it.
Both sides would be helped to ask a few questions before putting their feet together and jumping to conclusions.
We’ll look at those questions over the next two days.
The following is an edited transcript of an “Ask Pastor John” audio
How do I boast only in Christ when applying for a job?
I think there’s an external boast and an internal boast.
Internally, as you offer yourself with your skills—and that’s what they’re getting at: you have to sell yourself to get a job—you are saying,
“God, if I have any skills this company needs from me at all, they’re from you. And I thank you.”
“I thank you that I know video stuff,” or “I thank you that I am really fast as a typist,” or “I thank you that I have learned engineering skills.”
“And this is a gift from you, and I just want to speak the truth. I don’t want to overstate the case about what I’m capable of doing or understate the case of what I’m capable of doing. I want to just tell the truth, and inside I’m thanking you and I’m humbly submitting to you as my benefactor and my lord.”
Now the external, verbal part—if you sense it’s appropriate (and I think it would be, usually)—is to say who you are, what you can do, and just say “I’m thankful to God that he’s let me get an education in engineering,” or whatever field it is.
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Ken Currie gave the talk about money at the March 27th Senior Connection. He provided very helpful perspective and his notes are below.
“Finances”
1. Reality
You are likely to make more money in the coming year than you have ever made in your life.
Jesus talked more about money than he did about hell
2. Bad news:
Money will continue to tug at your heart, seeking to deceive you that you never quite have enough, that it can give you security in this life and even joy in itself.
Money will be one of your life’s companions. From school loans to cars, housing, health care costs, leisure activities, gadgets, food, weddings, and then children and their needs, inflation, retirement, insurance, vacations, rent or own, buy new or used, high or low quality, and on and on. Like a spoiled child it will demand that you pay attention to it. If you don’t it will cause everything from anxiousness to all out panic. If you let it (or, rather, the desire for it within you) it will dominate your mind and heart and you will be all but unable (w/o God’s grace) to break free from your love of it. Virtually every relationship will be impacted by money. Yes, including and especially those you are closest to.
Money will limit your friendships. You will be unlikely to build deep significant friendships outside the socio economic strata that you occupy. Lack of money will threaten to stress the faith out of you. Abundance of money will threaten to numb the faith out of you.
3. Good news: There’s no money in heaven, there is no need for currency
4. Scriptures relating to $
Do not toil to acquire wealth; be discerning enough to desist. 5 When your eyes light on it, it is gone, for suddenly it sprouts wings, flying like an eagle toward heaven. Prov. 23:4-5
Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust [5] destroy and where thieves break in and steal, 20 but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. Matt 6:19 – 21
He who loves money will not be satisfied with money, nor he who loves wealth with his income; this also is vanity. Eccl 5:10
“No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money. Mt. 6:24
For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs. I Tim. 6:10
For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy..II Tim. 3:2
Keep your life free from love of money, and be content with what you have, for he has said, “I will never leave you nor forsake you.” Heb. 13:5
5. Theological Perspective
Stewardship – not abject poverty or affluence
Everything is God’s. All physical possessions. Every enjoyable relationship and experience.
The earth is the Lord’s and the fullness thereof, the world and those who dwell therein, Ps. 24:1
Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, 20 for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body. 1 Cor. 6:19-20
Life is a vapor
Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. 2 Cor. 9:7 – poor, missions
“War time mentality”
Debt - a great tool with great danger
“Buy what you can afford” video
The rich rules over the poor, and the borrower is the slave of the lender. Prv. 22:7
Debt and You
You are the only person who will think for your good regarding debt. Do not trust in the lending companies. They are in business to make money off of you, not for your good
You are spending tomorrow’s income. When you get to ‘tomorrow’ it won’t be there for you will have already spent it. Be careful!
You are committing to paying more than the value of the item because of interest. Not only will the money not be there in the future (you have already spent it) but you will pay extra
Be VERY CAREFUL about using debt to purchase depreciating assets. Not only are you spending tomorrow’s money and you are spending extra (interest) the assest will be worth less when you get there
When possible use savings to make interest work for you.
6. In Summary
Answer to Money Struggles: The Gospel
Usually rooted in a bigger issue:
1. Trusting God and His best for you.
2. Comparison
3. Validation to others (family, friends, phantoms)